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swiftraccoon [Discord] Posts: 2380 Joined: Mar 2026
swiftraccoon [Discord]
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seems those two things are going to be heavily blocked moving forward
Mysticdrew [Discord] Posts: 2380 Joined: Mar 2026
Mysticdrew [Discord]
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yea, that makes sense, GLM though I think has less guardrails
swiftraccoon [Discord] Posts: 2380 Joined: Mar 2026
swiftraccoon [Discord]
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ya, but it's not reasonable to run locally
swiftraccoon [Discord] Posts: 2380 Joined: Mar 2026
swiftraccoon [Discord]
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need like 4x RTX6000 (so 60-70k) or the GB300 workstation (>80k)

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swiftraccoon [Discord] Posts: 2380 Joined: Mar 2026
swiftraccoon [Discord]
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not spending house money on hardware that will be obsolete very quickly
swiftraccoon [Discord] Posts: 2380 Joined: Mar 2026
swiftraccoon [Discord]
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esp at these inflated prices
PitViper [Discord] Posts: 2380 Joined: Mar 2026
PitViper [Discord]
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Maybe soon though....https://www.macrumors.com/2026/06/25/m5-ultra-mac-studio-2026/

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swiftraccoon [Discord] Posts: 2380 Joined: Mar 2026
swiftraccoon [Discord]
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Yes, likely buying one if their prices aren’t insane.
Mysticdrew [Discord] Posts: 2380 Joined: Mar 2026
Mysticdrew [Discord]
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Lol with ram prices, that will be insanely priced.
swiftraccoon [Discord] Posts: 2380 Joined: Mar 2026
swiftraccoon [Discord]
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yeah, but they could charge the same as what it would cost AMD/NVIDIA GPU equivalent which would truly be insane
swiftraccoon [Discord] Posts: 2380 Joined: Mar 2026
swiftraccoon [Discord]
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i doubt they will. it'll probably be 20-30k which compared to the greed of AMD/NVIDIA isn't all that insane
swiftraccoon [Discord] Posts: 2380 Joined: Mar 2026
swiftraccoon [Discord]
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certainly could be 40-50k too which gets into needing a return on investment/business justification
Mysticdrew [Discord] Posts: 2380 Joined: Mar 2026
Mysticdrew [Discord]
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seems Qwen has some guardrails as well.
swiftraccoon [Discord] Posts: 2380 Joined: Mar 2026
swiftraccoon [Discord]
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yes, both gemma4 and qwen3.6 do but there are abliterated models. even the defaults are very easy to jailbreak though.
swiftraccoon [Discord] Posts: 2380 Joined: Mar 2026
swiftraccoon [Discord]
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also should note local really only makes sense if you're trying to do the blocked things on OpenAI and Anthropic. if never getting blocked, the $200/m plan is impossible to beat.
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