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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 10:28 am 

Joined: Thu Mar 03, 2016 4:23 pm
Posts: 8

Please can you consider thinking about hiring somecant and rysten type guys (not sykotic) to develop what they already offer for free. Their work is of extremely high standards and i cannot fault any of their works.

Sykotic on the other hand, i find to be of extremely low quality and he usually abandons project shortly after starting them. I would not like to see that person hired at all. (I will, if i have to, give reference to a few cases which, if you scan the forums and projects you will easily see the common theme.) Really nice guy though.

I would like you to consider fucking off the paid $5 projects as they will and already lower the quality name you have slowly built over time. That is currency in this game as you know.

They are unreliable and its a bloody headache having to pay for them all as they stream in! There is very little quality regulation other then people writing to them in the forum and you taking a look in your free time. Most people just take the hit and don't bother writing to them in public, thus letting another sucker pay for rubish and the end result will you lose your sub to another bot.
Something which happens every day i have no doubt.

In my opinion it is called something like false economy. You allowing it to happen, thinking it is actually saving or making you money.. (the "PAID" Posts)

Paying for BDO script development yourself justifies a premium BDO section which will ofset the cost to hire these QUALITY guys/gals to make the code they now don't ask a fee for. This will maintain the good name you have built and it will also maintain people know they only have to sub to that service to receive only quality.

Another idea is possibly paying someone to test each "Paid" software and have the devs of them give you a fee for doing so, to ofset the price to pay for the person testing them properly. So they are "Viper Approved"?. This is something i find irritating and detrimental. Quality control like i have suggested should clear out some of the "pre order" Type deals too right?

All in all i dont think its unrealistic to expect some sort of cohesive forum layout. By that i mean,

1: If i want a basic profile, script ect. I know to find it in X section of a new theoretical BDO development setup .
2: If i want only quality assured software i know to sub to PREMIUM BDO SERVICE for professionally built software.
3: If i want to surf the forum for hours and send money to peoples paypal (Money that will never be yours) often for hit and miss. Thus resulting in me probably having some sort of resentment towards the MMOVIPER name. Ignore everything i have suggested.

I understand you have some sort of screening process atm but i will be bold and say its not efficient.

Consider cornering the $5 market, by funneling that money your way by outsourcing the work to some engineers who actually deserve being paid for their work. Giving the consumer security in hand, and the mmoviper name some more integrity.

Thankyou for considering my advice for a healthy change, feel free to take it or leave it. Its just my opinion.

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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 9:03 am 
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Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:01 am
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Been giving some thought to it.. not sure exactly how I want to handle it yet.

I have not found any people that willing to create plugins (even paying them) other than the people already making them and selling them.

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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:47 pm 
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Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:25 am
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While I can see your point and it's very valid. With the amount of time and effort that goes into putting out this content, it's only justified to having it paid.

The idea of having a source of some income for the days upon days of work put into the work coming from somewhere else is something I see no issue in. There are TONS of people who use my stuff and disagree with the "poor" quality you speak of. I honestly would prefer my content to be put out for free and have an income come from somewhere else. This way, the community gets the product and I still get something for the work/support/efforts I put into this bot.

Somecant, I won't deny, puts out some spectacular stuff, hence why he is a highly regarded member of this community. He puts out QUALITY, but very very few things. I put out QUANTITY, while still updating/upgrading upon the old products, hence why I am able to push out A TON of things for the community. Over the course of the past two months, I have spent nearly all of my time towards this bot and it's progression. A lot of people seem to not understand what this means.

It means I treat this as a job. Somecant treats it as an enjoyment and does it on his own free accord, he makes what benefits him and just shares his work, which is completely fine. Please don't think I am talking bad about Somecant. Hell, without him I wouldn't be able to make some of the nice things I have. The dude is amazing!

With all that said, I honestly hope at some point in the near future, a better way of handling the people such as myself, who take this as more of just a hobby will have a better way to provide content to the community without having people post things such as this.

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